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Do Germans still belong to Germany in the near future?

The speed with which the German population is shrinking seems to be even too much for the statisticians of Destatis, the official German bureau of statistics, who posit that by 2060, with a zero level of net immigration, the German population will have declined to 60,2 million. However, our research team has found out that this number is far too optimistic: in 40 years Germany will have a population of 52,6 million people, a considerable 34% drop from the current 81 million inhabitants, and by the end of the century the native German population, the indigenous people without a migration background, will have shrunk even further and be approaching 21,6 million. The explanation that Destatis has mailed us is tantamount to admitting that their projections are unrealistic.

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If the German elites succeed in maintaining their population at 80 million, in 2060 the majority of naturalized Germans will have no historical relation to the nation’s ancestors who were once proud subjects of the Holy Roman Empire. Moreover, they will stand in the same relation to Albert Schweitzer, Johann Sebastian Bach, Karl Benz and Friedrich Nietzsche as Recep Tayyip Erdoğan stands to the Byzantine emperors. The excessive numbers of migrants will have altered the German nation forever.

There will be no relation between future Germans and the German past

By 2050 many of the German historical figures, like Albert Schweitzer mentioned above, will be unmasked as racists and consequently removed from street names and history books and replaced with new heroes, a process that is already taking place in the US and the Netherlands. In the former, monuments to southern generals are under attack, whereas in the latter, migrant parties are pressing for Dutch historical figures to be eradicated from public spaces, streets to be renamed and their most important traditions, which are allegedly not inclusive, oppressive or insulting to national, racial or religious minorities to be prohibited. A country’s history should be about the past deeds of its people, but when people are replaced there is no connection with the past and it may happen that before this century is out, the majority of German citizens will have their cultural roots and their ancestors outside Germany or even outside Europe.

While one may label these predictions as scaremongering, this does not make them unreliable. Demographic forecasts, granting there are no unpredictable changes like outbreaks of epidemics or famine, are remarkably accurate. Consider the comparison of the results obtained by Destatis and us for the zero-migration model.

 

 

In Germany, an average woman gives birth to 1.4 children, this is below the replacement fertility level and it has not changed much since the 1970s. This is why the German population began to shrink. The trend has been reversed due to the 1.3 million non EU-immigrants who have arrived in the country since 2015.

Cerberus 2.0 computes the future of the German population

The Gefira team developed Cerberus 2.0, a software program, to calculate how a population grows or declines in the absence of migration. Using only death and birth rates, Cerberus 2.0 can compute what the size of the German society should be without the influx of foreigners and their offspring. The application begins by doing the calculations on the basis of the 1965 census taken from Destatis. We started with the year 1965 because we wanted to measure the German population growth without immigration, and we assumed that in that year there were not that many immigrants. We did not use the official detailed Destatis data for the subsequent years because these included immigrants i.e. the factor we wanted to exclude. While Destatis gives the total numbers of migrants currently living in Germany, Cerberus 2.0 independently computes the development of each age group of the indigenous German population starting with 1965 and ending in 2100, and for all years in between.

We are aware that there are mixed relations and that there are also Germans who have left the country. Because some mixed parents will Germanize their children, while others will do the opposite, we assume that this will not affect our results. Thus, with the aid of Cerberus 2.0 we calculated that if there had been no migration, the German population of 1965 would have been 64,99 million people strong in 2013. This is confirmed by Destatis, which puts the number of Germans without a migration background for the same year at 64.29 million. It shows that our computations are extremely accurate but also that there are hardly any third generation migrants in Germany who are regarded as native Germans.

The Destatis demographic model is a mere fantasy

We also did the calculation for the years 2013-2060, taking the population of 2013 as a starting point, and compared our results with those forecast by Destatis for the same period. According to Destatis, in 2060 the population will be 60.2, while Cerberus 2.0 predicts only 52,6 million inhabitants in Germany. The enormous difference of nearly 8 million between the two forecasts can only be explained by assuming that Destatis is very creative in their demographic forecasting, as we will explain shortly.

For Germany, Cerberus 2.0 processed the death and birth rates provided by Destatis. The demographic data – the percentage of mothers who gave birth, that is the Age-Specific Fertility Rate, and the percentage of people who died – were broken down into age groups. The Age-Specific Fertility Rate for 1965 allowed Cerberus 2.0 to calculate the number of children born in the next year, which is the number of women in a particular age group multiplied by the said rate for the relevant age group. The death rate for the same year was also taken into account. Having calculated the births and deaths, the application increased the ages of each age group by one year to create the entire population of 1966 without the influence of immigration. Then the program began the whole process again to compute the data for the year 1967, the consecutive year, and so on and so forth. For the calculations beyond 2015, Cerberus 2.0 used the age-specific death and fertility rates for 2015.

We then compared the Cerberus 2.0 projections with those of Destatis. Both Destatis and our research team began with the initial population of 2013, which was 81 million, and we both used the same fertility rate of 1.4. Neither took into account the 1.3 million non-Western immigrants that entered Germany after 2014. The obtained results differed significantly: Cerberus 2.0 forecast 52,6 whereas Destatis – 60,2 million inhabitants in Germany in 2060.

Populations grow and shrink due to only four factors; births, deaths, immigration and emigration. The Cerberus 2.0 zero-migration model only uses the death and birth rates, whereas Destatis adds 600.000 young immigrants and removes 600.000 old emigrants every year from its model. That means that every year 600.000 young men and women arrive in Germany, bear children and when those children come of age the parents leave the country like cuckoos, a rather strange assumption. The consequence is that immigrants themselves do not add to the population, but their children do. In the Destatis model the immigration and emigration balance is kept at zero.

How does Destatis arrive at these numbers? In 2014 there were 331 thousand women born. After seven years this same group of women is projected by Destatis to grow to 333 thousand, and after 27 years, in 2041, it is projected to reach a peak of 350 thousand, in other words in 2021 there will be fewer women born than in 2041! How is this possible? Only if immigrant women are included in the statistics.

 

 

Since in this model there are as many migrants entering the country as leaving it, the first generation migrants do not add to the total population. However, these migrants have on average 170 thousand children annually. These children enlarge the German population, but Destatis does not regard them as foreigners. Hence, the Destatis zero immigration prognosis is false and yields a far too “rosy” projection for the future of Germany. The response from Destatis on the difference between our findings and theirs is that their projection is formally accurate and the difference is a result of the fact that we assumed a zero migration model – no migration at all, whereas they assumed a balance zero migration model.

Germany, like most of the West, is subjected to mass immigration on an unprecedented scale, and according to the new German government the process will continue for the foreseeable future.

Due to the refugee relocation, the number of the non-EU population increased by 1.3 million between January 2015 and June 2017. The new government has decided that the country should grow by 200 thousand asylum seekers annually. To understand the effect of this policy on German society, one has to compare this number with the number of German newborns. According to Cerberus 2.0, the number of native Germans that are born will decrease from about 450 thousand in 2020 to 315 thousand within the following twenty years. The addition of 200 thousand relatively young asylum seekers year after year, plus their offspring, will alter the German society profoundly within 40 to 60 years and Germany will cease to be a German country.

By the end of the century there will be 22 million Germans left

The 1965 German population will shrink to 37.8 million within the coming forty years, and to 21,6 million by the end of the century. In 2060, the number of indigenous Germans will amount to half of that of East and West Germany combined in 1945. Given the below-replacement birth rates among the indigenous people, the German governments can only keep the current number of inhabitants at 80 million by importing immigrants, thus in the long run, for all practical purposes, replacing indigenous Germans.

 

 

The idea that the new arrivals will integrate or assimilate is complete nonsense i.e. the new Germans are not going to be German. The main reason people relocate to Germany is for personal welfare rather than German culture. Immigrants maintain their religion and heritage, form political parties, build religious institutions, have their separate shops and even want to have their own legal system. Given the sheer numbers that are flocking into Germany, there is no way that the Germans can uphold their political structure, language and cultural identity.

It takes a long time for a super tanker to change course. Similarly, demographic changes are not visible until after at least 15 to 30 years. Accepting 1.3 million foreigners within two years and adding 200 thousand non-European migrants annually to the rapidly shrinking German population will already have had a devastating effect on the German population by 2030.

The results of Cerberus 2.0 show us that the discussion about migration is not about accepting and protecting the right of minorities; rather, it is about an existential question, it is about the preservation of the Germans. When the German ruling elites begin to understand their failing policies, it will be too late. There are no examples in history when these kinds of massive changes have ended well.

11 comments on “Do Germans still belong to Germany in the near future?

  • The idea that the new arrivals will integrate or assimilate is complete nonsense i.e. the new Germans are not going to be German. The main reason people relocate to Germany is for personal welfare rather than German culture. Immigrants maintain their religion and heritage, form political parties, build religious institutions, have their separate shops and even want to have their own legal system. Given the sheer numbers that are flocking into Germany, there is no way that the Germans can uphold their political structure, language and cultural identity.

    It takes a long time for a super tanker to change course. Similarly, demographic changes are not visible until after at least 15 to 30 years. Accepting 1.3 million foreigners within two years and adding 200 thousand non-European migrants annually to the rapidly shrinking German population will already have had a devastating effect on the German population by 2030.

    The results of Cerberus 2.0 show us that the discussion about migration is not about accepting and protecting the right of minorities; rather, it is about an existential question, it is about the preservation of the Germans. When the German ruling elites begin to understand their failing policies, it will be too late. There are no examples in history when these kinds of massive changes have ended well.

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  • Since in this model there are as many migrants entering the country as leaving it, the first generation migrants do not add to the total population. However, these migrants have on average 170 thousand children annually. These children enlarge the German population, but Destatis does not regard them as foreigners. Hence, the Destatis zero immigration prognosis is false and yields a far too “rosy” projection for the future of Germany. The response from Destatis on the difference between our findings and theirs is that their projection is formally accurate and the difference is a result of the fact that we assumed a zero migration model – no migration at all, whereas they assumed a balance zero migration model.

    Germany, like most of the West, is subjected to mass immigration on an unprecedented scale, and according to the new German government the process will continue for the foreseeable future.

    Due to the refugee relocation, the number of the non-EU population increased by 1.3 million between January 2015 and June 2017. The new government has decided that the country should grow by 200 thousand asylum seekers annually. To understand the effect of this policy on German society, one has to compare this number with the number of German newborns. According to Cerberus 2.0, the number of native Germans that are born will decrease from about 450 thousand in 2020 to 315 thousand within the following twenty years. The addition of 200 thousand relatively young asylum seekers year after year, plus their offspring, will alter the German society profoundly within 40 to 60 years and Germany will cease to be a German country.

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  • More than 20 years ago men’s rights activists were warning that feminism and it’s associated political correctness would destroy Western civilization.

    You laughed at us.

    Who’s laughing now?

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  • The Americans, British, and Soviets killed off the German people and set up a anti-German government to destroy the survivors. Hitler was right on every important matter. Racial oblivion is what he was trying to fight off.

    The European world is perishing because of the mass power of racial imbeciles whose politics of democracy dooms Europe. Europeans cannot survive with mass democracy and mass migration.

    This Anglo-American politics should stay in Anglo-American spheres. Europe needs the politics of a nature preserve to protect the endangered species from predators and parasites; not the politics of Barbara Spectre and the Hooten plan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7rMVuETAy0

    The post-war world has been a disaster for European demographics from Sweden to Italy.

    That totally discredits the victors. It was a total war of nihilism revealed in the demographics. They have won nothing, but the demographic destruction of the continental European civilization. Their war was all for nothing. No more Soviets. No more British empire. No more French empire. No more freedoms in America. Yet, their political structure and stranglehold on Europe remains. It must be dissolved pronto.

    You should include some corrective measures.

    Such as, what if 20 percent of German women had three children. How would that change the demographic outcomes? Europe isn’t doomed because we can see a course we do not want to take.

    Blood-Germans need a blood-German baby-boom. The state must remove all financial obstacles and other hostility to that as a matter of the authentic interests of the German people; and the larger interests of Europe.

    The US must dissolve all post-war bondage placed on Germans and all other rotten post-war governments that it set up. This is the only way out. America is murdering Europe.

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  • these projections fail to take into account the coming civil war in germany and then the global war where multi billions will be slaughtered. the non white refugees being brought into europe right now are brought in as instigators and they are themselves to be slaughtered. after the global war is complete i predict europe will be 99.5% white , but reduced in total numbers by 50-65%, while the total world population will drop from 7.5 billion to anywhere between 2 billion and 4 billion.

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  • Peter Kroh says:

    Can you please define what an indigenous German is? I’m German. But I have an ancestor (from which I have my family name) that came from Czech to germany around 1900 and an other ancestor that came as a refugee from Poland in 1945. Am I an indigenous German?
    If I’m not an indigenous German, no one in Germany nor any one in Europe is indigenous to it’s country, since everone has some history of migration in it’s family. The culture of the region I come from and live in (Saxony) is basically a mix of slavic, french and jewish culture. But Saxony was always a part of German federations (Germany as a state/country/nation exists only for 150 years).
    What I want to say is, that your statistic is pretty useless. It only shows that people that enjoy the German culture and social system for a certain amount of time tend to get less children than people of other regions of the world. And this is not even something bad. The less people there are consuming the resources of our earth, the longer we will have a good live on it.

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    • “The less people there are consuming the resources of our earth, the longer we will have a good live on it.”
      Thats pretty funny. Flintestone is running out! Stop the wooden wheels!
      In Fact the universe is infinite as the human needs. So more division of labor and technology is helpful for humankind. Growing is natural as mankind as part of the nature. Maybe the germans did there part in the 17-19th century and are now brainwashed to vanish. There will be new parts in the word to lead into a better future.

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  • Many Europeans high educated people are not able to sense the difference between Europeans and people from other continents. I worked for years for a Japanese company and regard Japanese very high. However, I am pretty well able to see the difference between a Japanese and a Germans.
    Polish and Czech people blend into each culture quite easily. However the last time a was within a meeting with an academic Pole and a left academic German thing went already wrong after 5 minutes. The pro-multicultural German could not understand the nationalistic feelings of the Polish person and the clash of cultures began after 5 minutes. The high educated left-wing academic German shows openly his disdain for the miserable racist Pole. He argued that he was very well able with Africans but he shows he was not even able to work with Poles.
    Wherever we look in history people tend to identify themselves with a bigger group; Tartars are no Russians and Kurds are no Turks. Jews and Palestinians are fighting each other for more than 50 years,
    The history is all about ethnic groups who compete with each other. It may be the case that you do not know what a German is, Turks know very well what Turks are. Even if you feel there is no difference between you and a person from Ghana it is not reciprocal. My question to you, why do you want that Germany import the same problems as we see in Sout-East Turkey, Syria, Kashmir, the Southern States of the USA etc etc.
    Turks

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  • Many high educated people in Europe argue that they are not able to sense/see the difference between Europeans and people from other continents. I think it is a form of intellectual corruption, because every observe can see who is from Africa and who is from China apart from the color of the skin. I worked for years for a Japanese company and regard Japanese very high. However, I am pretty well able to see the difference between a Japanese and a German person. The boundary between a “real” German and a non-German is not always sharp, but that is a problem of identification in general.
    Polish and Czech people blend into each culture quite easily. However the last time I was within a meeting with an academic Pole and a left academic German thing went already wrong after 5 minutes. The pro-multicultural German could not understand the nationalistic feelings of the Polish person and the clash of cultures began after 5 minutes. The high educated left-wing academic German shows openly his disdain for the miserable racist Pole. He argued that there was no difference between him and people from Mali, and he has no problem if Germany turn dark however it shows that he was not able to work with Poles.
    Wherever we look in history people tend to identify themselves with a bigger group; Tartars are no Russians and Kurds are no Turks. Jews and Palestinians are fighting each other for more than 50 years,
    The history is all about ethnic groups who compete with each other. It may be the case that you do not know what a German is, Turks know very well what Turks are. Even if you feel there is no difference between you and a person from Ghana it is not reciprocal. My question to you, why do you want that Germany to import the same problems as we see in Sout-East Turkey, Syria, Kashmir, the Southern States of the USA etc etc.
    Why do you not want to learn from history?

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